Craigslist Rental Scams
September 24, 2008 at 9:21 pm | Posted in Rental Scams, Tips to Avoid Scams | 91 CommentsTags: craigslist rental scams
Today there are 608,000 webpages that mention Craigslist rental scams. There have been 41 newspaper stories this week on Craigslist rental scams. And over 6,457 blogs have written about Craigslist rental scams.
The good news is we are starting to get the word out about rental scams. The bad news is, rental scams are continuing to increase and not just on Craigslist but across the internet.
We need to take action. We need to hit the scammers where it hurts the most, through economics.
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I was scammed by someone coming to lease my house from the UK working with Eli Lilly. Was going to send cashier check for more than deposit and monthly rental.
Comment by tommie— September 26, 2008 #
Listing rental on Craiglist. Contacted by someone in the Netherlands “coming to the US” for fossil sales” Name was Luis Mila with a yahoo account
Comment by Lynda— December 14, 2008 #
luismilao79 just responded as from the Netherlands to my new craigslist ad for a rental home in Florida. BEWARE!! They’re still at it!!!
Comment by Denise— July 6, 2009 #
A person with the email richardwalt10@yahoo.com hijacked my ad in craigslist reduced the rent to an almost ridicoulous amount and obtained personal and credit infromation from a person applying to rent the house.
Comment by Rich Thompson— December 27, 2008 #
I was hit by the eli lilly scam as well. luckely I only sent photos but no personal information. Are there more scams I should be looking out for.
Comment by Karen— January 21, 2009 #
Hey I’m thinking this is a scam but wanted to get a few opinions….
Hi Sarah,
Thanks for the email response.The total move in cost is very much okay by me but can I have the pictures of the house Cause I’ll not be able to check out the place until my arrival,so that I can make arrangement for payment prior to my arrival since I’ll be coming down from Oklahoma city as soon as I’m able to secure a comfortable room.
I have been working with the health wing of the UN,WHO, on projects that includes orphans,orphanages,heart related diseases in children between the ages
of 3-12 yrs,for the past 2 years as a certified nurse holding the post of cold chain officer
About me:
Hair:- black/Brown
Eyes:- Hazel
Age:- 28
Location:- Oklahoma city
Height:- 5″7′
Weight:- 112
Body Style:- Athletic/Fit.
Activity Level:- Very Active
Smoking:- No
Drinking:- Occasionally
Marital Status:- Single
Children:- 0
Like:- Honest,responsible,trustworthy and hardworking people
Dislike:- I dislike lazy,messy,uncaring people and I love pets so much
Hobbies:- I always love to go on date but seldom party. I swim for fun
and sometimes play tennis.
Zodiac Sign:- Cancer
Languages I speak:- English,french
Ethnicity:- Mixed
Occupation:- Registered Nurse
Remark:- am quiet and easy going person.
I also will want you to know that I have my car that I will be coming over with,and little of my furniture’s,please let me know if there will be room for them..
Moreover,I will want to know more about you and the neighborhood,Let me also know how I can go about securing the place down before my arrival,probably by making an up front payment to hold down the rent.The mode of payment will be by check, if this mode is ok by you, I will advise you to kindly include in your next mail ,the address and the name to be written on the check so as to meet up with the payment on time…I will be signing the lease for six month depending on how you want it. I will be busy from next week cos I have a 3 weeks seminar I have to attend in Guam and will be resuming the rent as soon as the seminar is over by the Mid of Feb…Can I know more about the neighborhood?
for more enquiries, you can reach me or leave a message on my Cousin’s line
(Gilda 808-699-9860)
hope to hear or read from you soon…
Julia H.
I replied back and this is what I received about 20 minutes later….
Actually, I’ll be traveling to Guam next week for a seminar I have to attend and will be there till the middle of next month. I’ll be resuming the rent as soon as am through with the seminar. I’m glad to know there will be room for my car cos I’ve already booked the shipments and will be move as soon as am able to secure the rent by making up front payment to hold it. I’ll be talking to my financier, to also avoid mutual mistake, the check is not coming from me but from my financier as I have already applied for the relocation loan but yet to be granted… I will be checking back with my financier today, so I’ll urge you to kindly email me the name and address to send the check payment to , so as to meet up with the payment on time.. and don’t forget to email the picture to me latter today and I’ll also email mine to you soon
Thanks
Julia
Comment by Sarah— January 23, 2009 #
I just got an almost identical email in response to an ad I posted:
Hi Fred,
Thanks for the email response.The total move in cost is very much okay by me but can I have the pictures of the house Cause I’ll not be able to check out the place until my arrival,so that I can make arrangement for payment prior to my arrival since I’ll be coming down from Hawaii as soon as I’m able to secure a comfortable room.
I have been working with the health wing of the UN,WHO, on projects that includes orphans,orphanages,heart related diseases in children between the ages of 3-12 yrs,for the past 4 years as a certified nurse holding the post of cold chain officer
About me:
Hair:- black/Brown
Eyes:- Hazel
Age:- 28
Location:- Hawaii
Height:- 5″7′
Weight:- 112
Body Style:- Athletic/Fit.
Activity Level:- Very Active
Smoking:- No
Drinking:- Occasionally
Marital Status:- Single
Children:- 0
Like:- Honest,responsible,trustworthy and hardworking people
Dislike:- I dislike lazy,messy,uncaring people and I love pets so much
Hobbies:- I always love to go on date but seldom party. I swim for fun
and sometimes play tennis.
Zodiac Sign:- Cancer
Languages I speak:- English,french
Ethnicity:- Mixed
Occupation:- Registered Nurse
Remark:- am quiet and easy going person.
I also will want you to know that I have my car that I will be coming over with,and little of my furniture’s,please let me know if there will be room for them..
Moreover,I will want to know more about you and the neighbourhood,Let me also know how I can go about securing the place down before my arrival,probably by making an up front payment to hold down the rent.The mode of payment will be by check, if this mode is ok by you, I will advise you to kindly include in your next mail the address to mail the check to and the name to be written on the check so as to meet up with the payment on time…I will be signing the lease for six month depending on how you want it. I will be busy from next week cos I have a 3 weeks seminar I have to attend in Guam and will be resuming the rent as soon as the seminar is over by August End… …Can I know more about the neighbourhood?
for more enquiries, you can reach me or leave a message on my line (808-699-9860)
hope to hear or read from you soon…
Roselene T.
Comment by Fred— July 28, 2009 #
I got the same exact email too. It includes all the same information including the same phone number. I had actually responded to roselenetwist@aol.com and she sent me a check for 3500.00. Im not stupid I didnt cash the fake check and i sent her an email letting her know I knew it was a scam and havent heard from her since.So she is still at it!
Comment by Jezabelle— September 19, 2009 #
Also got an email from roselenetwist@aol.com. Marked as “phishing scam”.
Comment by Jake— November 20, 2009 #
I just got a response to an apartment we have posted. It looks like the same scam.
details
From: Larry Brown (larry003brown@yahoo.co.uk)
Sent: Sun 1/25/09 3:52 AM
To:
Thanks for the details on the Property, i am satisfied and will
like to proceed with the renting process,
i will like you to go ahead and reserve the property for me.
So i will be needing the following information so that the check
for payment of the deposit of $3350 can be processed and posted to you
soon.
Name:…………
Address:………….
Phone number(cell and land):…………
I want the 12 months lease to start on the 15th Feb 2009, i will also
want to notify you that i have in the mean time arrange with an interior
decorator who will be handling the purchase of furnitures,entertainment
system and other appliances that i will need in the property,they will as
well be in-charge of moving down my luggage down to the States.
So the check of $8000 will be sent over to you which is a relocation grant
by my employer, and all you need to do is deduct the deposit $3350 and you
will forward the rest to the Decorators so i can have the place all
prepared for my arrival. All applications and lease will be signed as soon
as i arrive.
Also for familiarization I Am Larry Brown,I am 32 yrs of age,a British
citizen, married to a lovely lady, with a daughter (Family staying over
in the UK ), I work with LINK INSURANCE GROUP (UK), as a loss adjuster
agent,I am a Christian, reserved in Nature, Non smoker also i don’t keep
pets.
I look forward to meeting you and hope to have a good relationship as a
tenant with you.
I await the details.
you can reach me at this number +447024099236
Below is my present landlords information for reference :
Anthony Scott
65 Oak Hill,Woodford Green IG89NY
UNITED KINGDOM
EMAIL:scott_hony@yahoo.co.uk
You can also call my employer at the number below to verify employment.
(Ivan Samuel +447024017745)
Cheers
— On Sat, 24/1/09, > wrote:
From: >
Subject: RE: $1300 / 3br – Beautiful Spacious Apt. near commuter rail-Abington (Abington)
To: larry003brown@yahoo.co.uk
Date: Saturday, 24 January, 2009, 2:14 PM
The rent is $1300/month. No utilities are included. We require first, last and security deposit (half a month’s rent), so $3350 upon moving in. The property would be available after March 1st. the date is flexible. We would just like to clean the carpets, tough up paint, etc. after the current tenant moves out.
Are you planning to be in the state’s long term or is it just temporary? We do require a 1 year lease. Non-smokers only. I will did for photos. I have some from when we just finished our renovations on it. It was all redone in 2004. New paint, windows, most of the trim was replaced.. Floors redone. It has berber carpet and some wood floors. I’ll try to get pictures to you shortly.
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 04:58:35 -0800
From: larry002brown@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: RE: $1300 / 3br – Beautiful Spacious Apt. near commuter rail-Abington (Abington)
With regards to the property i am inquiring about, i will like to get some more details about it,I am currently in the UK and i am Relocating over to the US to do a survey for my employer (LINK INSURANCE GROUP(UK)), as we are about to open an office in the state, so due to my non presence to inspect the Property,
i will like you to give me the below detail
# I need full details including address of the property and pictures if available
# Monthly rentals/security deposits
# If utilities is added to monthly rent
# When the property would be available
# Mail me the total move in cost
I awaits your response soon.
Regards.
Comment by Melissa— January 26, 2009 #
Just got the same scam but by a different person representing an Apex Insurance Group. Was a good thing i checked this site.
Comment by Rocki— July 6, 2009 #
We just got the same scam…identical email and the guy said he worked for Apex Insurance Group. He also wanted to send me a check and have us forward what was left to an interior decorator. This is crazy!!
Comment by Vince— July 26, 2009 #
I just got the same email!! I replied back w/the address and rent info, but fortunately did not give any personal info. I also use a googlemail email address for replying to Craigslist folks so that my personal address is kept that way! Glad I googled Apex Insurance Group (UK) and found this website.
From:
dateTue, Oct 13, 2009
mailed-bygooglemail.com
signed-bygooglemail.com
hide details Oct 13 (2 days ago)
With regards to the property i am inquiring about, i will like to get
some more details about it,I am currently in the UK and i am
Relocating over to the US to do a survey for my employer (APEX
INSURANCE GROUP(UK)), as we are about to open an office in the state,
so due to the fact that i can not be present to inspect the Property,
i will like you to give me the below detail
# I need full details including address of the property and pictures
if available
# Monthly rentals/security deposits
# If utilities is added to monthly rent
# When the property would be available
# Mail me the total move in cost
I awaits your response soon.
Regards.
Comment by NX— October 15, 2009 #
I just got the same scam from Eric Herman who claimed to work for Apex Insurance Group UK. Thought I had rented my apartment in record time. Glad I checked this site. The email addresses were the same . Same former landlord and exact smae script! Beware. Someone should develop a program to trap these guys!
Comment by Allan Jacques— October 16, 2009 #
Hi , just got a gut feeling, unfortunately after sending the message with address, etc.. to this eric herman guy from APEX in the UK. Googled it and found this website. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH!!!!!
Comment by france-marie— December 8, 2009 #
I just got a similar type email. Except for the name and amount, it was identical (see below). Thank you VERY MUCH for this posting. You’ve saved me a lot of trouble, I’m sure.
Here’s how the scam works. They send you a check for x, ask you to withdraw y and send them the difference z. You go to your bank, do all the leg work and send them a check for z. Once they’ve cashed your check, check x bounces, and you’ve just lost z out of our bank account.
In case you’re interested, here is the text:
Thanks for the details on the Property, i am satisfied and will
like to proceed with the renting process,
i will like you to go ahead and reserve the property for me.
So i will be needing the following information so that the check
for payment of the deposit of $2200 can be processed and posted to you
soon.
Name:…………
Address:………….
Phone number(cell and land):…………
I want the 12 months lease to start on the 1st November 2009, i will also
want to notify you that i have in the mean time arrange with an
interior decorator who will be handling the purchase of furnitures,
entertainment system and other appliances that i will need in the
property,they will as well be in-charge of moving down my luggage down
to the States.So the check of $6800 will be sent over to you which is
a relocation grant by my employer, and all you need to do is deduct the
deposit $2200 and you will forward the rest to the Decorators so i can
have the place all prepared for my arrival. All applications and
lease will be signed as soon as i arrive.
Also for familiarization I Am Eric Herman , I am 32 yrs of age,a British
citizen, married to a lovely lady, with a daughter (Family staying
over in the UK ), I work with APEX INSURANCE GROUP, as a loss
adjuster agent,I am a Christian, reserved in Nature, Non smoker
also i don’t keep pets.
I look forward to meeting you and hope to have a good relationship as
a tenant with you.
I await the details.
you can reach me at this number +447024099236
Below is my present landlords information for reference :
Anthony Scott
65 Oak Hill,Woodford Green IG89NY
UNITED KINGDOM
EMAIL:cott_hony@yahoo.com
You can also call my employer at the number below to verify employment.
(Ivan Samuel +447024017745)
Cheers
Comment by Gar— October 14, 2009 #
Nov. 19, 09
The same scam from Eric Herman with a “decorator” crap.
Thanks for the details on the Property, i am satisfied and will
like to proceed with the renting process,
i will like you to go ahead and reserve the property for me.
So i will be needing the following information so that the check for payment of the deposit of $4250 can be processed and posted to you soon.
Name:…………
Address:………….
Phone number(cell and land):…………
I want the 12 months lease to start on the 1st Dec 2009, i will also
want to notify you that i have in the mean time arrange with an interior decorator who will be handling the purchase of furniture, entertainment system and other appliances that i will need in the
property,they will as well be in-charge of moving down my luggage down to the States.So the check of $8900 will be sent over to you which is a relocation grant by my employer, and all you need to do is deduct the
deposit $4250 and you will forward the rest to the Decorators so i can have the place all prepared for my arrival. All applications and lease will be signed as soon as i arrive.
Also for familiarization I Am Eric Herman , I am 32 yrs of age,a British citizen, married to a lovely lady, with a daughter (Family staying over in the UK ), I work with APEX INSURANCE GROUP, as a loss
adjuster agent,I am a Christian, reserved in Nature, Non smoker
also i don’t keep pets.
I look forward to meeting you and hope to have a good relationship as a tenant with you.
I await the details.
you can reach me at this number +447024099236
Below is my present landlords information for reference :
Anthony Scott
65 Oak Hill,Woodford Green IG89NY
UNITED KINGDOM
EMAIL:cott_hony@yahoo.com
You can also call my employer at the number below to verify employment.
(Ivan Samuel +447024017745)
Cheers
Comment by Irina— November 19, 2009 #
i just had the same exact email sent to me. the name, the company , the former landlord, and employer. i am so glad i check this B.S. out first and didn’t go to far with it. they didn’t get any real info. i’m glad i found this web site and did some research. heres the email sent to me:
Thanks for the details on the Property, i am satisfied and will
like to proceed with the renting process,
i will like you to go ahead and reserve the property for me.
So i will be needing the following information so that the check
for payment of the deposit of $3600 can be processed and posted to you
soon.
Name:…………
Address:………….
Phone number(cell and land):…………
I want the 12 months lease to start on the 1st Dec 2009, i will also
want to notify you that i have in the mean time arrange with an
interior decorator who will be handling the purchase of furniture,
entertainment system and other appliances that i will need in the
property,they will as well be in-charge of moving down my luggage down
to the States.So the check of $8200 will be sent over to you which is
a relocation grant by my employer, and all you need to do is deduct the
deposit $3600 and you will forward the rest to the Decorators so i can
have the place all prepared for my arrival. All applications and
lease will be signed as soon as i arrive.
Also for familiarization I Am Eric Herman , I am 32 yrs of age,a British
citizen, married to a lovely lady, with a daughter (Family staying
over in the UK ), I work with APEX INSURANCE GROUP, as a loss
adjuster agent,I am a Christian, reserved in Nature, Non smoker
also i don’t keep pets.
I look forward to meeting you and hope to have a good relationship as
a tenant with you.
I await the details.
you can reach me at this number +447024099236
Below is my present landlords information for reference :
Anthony Scott
65 Oak Hill,Woodford Green IG89NY
UNITED KINGDOM
EMAIL:scott1_thony@yahoo.com
You can also call my employer at the number below to verify employment.
(Ivan Samuel +447024017745)
Cheers
Comment by geoff— November 23, 2009 #
Eric Herman is still busy. Identical email other then the date (Dec 15 to move in) and the $ amounts. You don’t need to read it again.
Has anyone tried to run a sting on these guys with law enforcement (guess it’s state Atty General) – find out who the decorator is and run the line back?
Comment by Fred in Seattle— December 3, 2009 #
I just received the same email from a gentleman representing the apex ins company. His response read word for word…he was frankeders@mail.hu
Comment by Chris— February 1, 2011 #
“Larry Brown” as well as “Reverend Michael Williams” tried to get me to “rent” my apartment to them. Both wanting to overpay me and have me cut a check to the decorator/ furniture company. The text you have here is exactly the same as the one I received . I did not give them any personal information..I have not heard from the “Reverend” since I asked for personal references …
Comment by H.Winn— February 9, 2009 #
come on people! since when are hazel eyes a pre-requisite of leasing apartments!!?
Comment by gp— February 12, 2009 #
This is the second craigs list add that was attempted to be scammed. What a bunch of low life scum bags!
I responded:
To: larry16brown@googlemail.com
PISS OFF YOU SCAMMER!!!!!!! GET A LIFE AND STOP TRYING TO GET SOMETHING FOR NOTHING!!!! GET A REAL JOB YOU FUCKING LOSER!!!
——————————————————————————–
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 04:21:24 -0800
Subject: $1200 / 2br – completely remodeled duplex (Water Street) (map)
From: larry16brown@googlemail.com
–
Hello,
I would like to know if the property you listed is still available.
Regards.
Comment by LIsa— February 14, 2009 #
I received an inquiry today from a Cindy William; similar to the other scam I received two days ago from Rev Michael Williams (naveenfoxx@gmail.com). Here’s today’s email from c_william19770@rediffmail.com
Good Day
With regards to the property I am inquiring about, I will like to get
some more details about it, I am currently in the Uk and I am Relocating
down to the USA to do a survey for my company ( Kingsbridge Risk
Solutions (UK) Ivy house,8 – 10 High Street,Twyford,READING,RG10 9AE),
as we are about to open an office in the state, so due to my non
presence to inspect the Property, I will like you to provide me the
following details am moving in with my son and two daughters.
# I need full details including address of the property and pictures if
available for the place.
# Monthly rentals/security deposits.
# If utilities is added to monthly rent.
# When the property would be available.
# Mail me the total move in cost.
I await your response soon.
Regards.
Cindy
Comment by Heather— February 18, 2009 #
Got the Larry Brown one 3 days ago. My wife picked up on it right away. All that nitwit is going to get from me are a few good pictures of the inside of the Apartment.
Comment by Paul— February 18, 2009 #
I almost was a victim of the Eli Lilly rental scam by someone using the name RONALD BLUE. Beware Thanks for the information on this blog
Comment by JJ— March 4, 2009 #
Hi,
Thanks for your mail, I will be willing to pay 1 month rent to start with plus the security deposit in order to secure this unit prior to my arrival.
I am an Engineer by profession and I am currently working with Wessex Survey & Design Ltd UK. I will be coming to the state for the next one year and during my stay, I will be working with Black & Veatch Incorporation a leading global engineering, consulting and construction company specializing in infrastructure development in energy, water, telecommunications,
management consulting, federal and environmental markets.
My sole financier will be handling the rent deposit payment on my behalf, I will instruct him to send you a Certified Check for this as soon as you give me the go ahead to make out payment to you. Due to the limited time that we have before our arrival, we are making arrangements with a furniture company to supply the home with furnitures,so we will need you to provide us with the the following:
# Measurements of the living room and bedroom.
# Picture viewing the living room and the bed room(s).
# As regards the lease agreement and application, I want you to send it to me for my review. I will eventually have it filled and signed on my arrival in your place as I am of the opinion that such documents are best filled and signed physically by appending signatory at best physical. We can start the lease by asap and I will be doing a one year lease. You can prepare the
lease in my name.
I will look forward to your e-mail with the required information.
Thanks and sincere regards from me and my precious family. I await your urgent response.
Regards
Reference:
Karen L. Daniel
Chief Financial Officer
Black and Veatch Incoporation
Comment by Ryanr— March 22, 2009 #
Same scam, received purportedly from the UK and targeting Austin, TX. Comfort is know they’ll doing the same thing into their old age with nothing to show for it but a bad life. Time is the best revenge for people like this.
Comment by Ryanr— March 22, 2009 #
More scammers! Here is an email from David Decker sent in response to my CL ad. I received a similar ad when I posted an apt for rent a couple months ago.
“Thanks for the details on the Property, i am satisfied and will
like to proceed with the renting process,
i will like you to go ahead and reserve the property for me.
So i will be needing the following information so that the check
for payment of the deposit of $1700 can be processed and posted to you
soon.
Name:…………
Address:………….
Phone number(cell and land):…………
I want the 12 months lease to start on the 1st May 2009, i will also
want to notify you that i have in the mean time arrange with an
interior decorator who will be handling the purchase of furnitures,
entertainment system and other appliances that i will need in the
property,they will as well be in-charge of moving down my luggage down
to the States.So the check of $6400 will be sent over to you which is
a relocation grant by my employer, and all you need to do is deduct the
deposit $1700 and you will forward the rest to the Decorators so i can
have the place all prepared for my arrival. All applications and
lease will be signed as soon as i arrive.
Also for familiarization I Am David Decker,I am 32 yrs of age,a British
citizen, married to a lovely lady, with a daughter (Family staying
over in the UK ), I work with APEX INSURANCE GROUP, as a loss
adjuster agent,I am a Christian, reserved in Nature, Non smoker
also i don’t keep pets.
I look forward to meeting you and hope to have a good relationship as
a tenant with you.
I await the details.
you can reach me at this number +447024099236
Below is my present landlords information for reference :
Anthony Scott
65 Oak Hill,Woodford Green IG89NY
UNITED KINGDOM
EMAIL:scott_hony@yahoo.co.uk
You can also call my employer at the number below to verify employment.
(Ivan Samuel +447024017745)
Cheers”
Comment by Charlie— April 16, 2009 #
Here is a question for all that have handled this scam, as I get this a couple times a week for any property I list through my management company. What would happen if they send you a check and you just cash it? I have just been curious.
Comment by Mike R— May 7, 2009 #
Hi Mike,
The cashiers check is fake. If you cash it, the bank will think it is real. After 2 days, the bank will know that the check is fake, and if you wired money back to the scammer within that time frame, you will be out the money.
Comment by fitnesswag— May 7, 2009 #
Received email from: David Decker
Interested in renting our place, he wanted it unseen.
His co was going to forward a check for $9,700, and then we were supposed to forward a balance to some decorators.
Yeah, right.
Here is an excerpt that matches the above IDENTICALLY:
Below is my present landlords information for reference :
Anthony Scott
65 Oak Hill,Woodford Green IG89NY
UNITED KINGDOM
EMAIL:scott_hony@yahoo.co.uk
You can also call my employer at the number below to verify employment.
(Ivan Samuel +447024017745)
Comment by MM-Boston— May 17, 2009 #
Hi,
I also got the David Decker scam. The guy does now have my name, address, and phone #. I assume he’s not in it for the identity, just the hope that he’d get the fake check “forwarded”. Should I be overly concerned about the possibility of identity theft?
Comment by Noam— May 22, 2009 #
Hi
Here is another David Decker scam. I did not fall for it. I google the address and it lead me to rentalscams.org.Thks.
Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 6:58 AM
Thanks for the details on the Property, i am satisfied and will
like to proceed with the renting process,
i will like you to go ahead and reserve the property for me.
So i will be needing the following information so that the check
for payment of the deposit of $1800 can be processed and posted to you
soon.
Name:…………
Address:………….
Phone number(cell and land):…………
I want the 12 months lease to start on the 15th June 2009, i will also
want to notify you that i have in the mean time arrange with an
interior decorator who will be handling the purchase of furnitures,
entertainment system and other appliances that i will need in the
property,they will as well be in-charge of moving down my luggage down
to the States.So the check of $6400 will be sent over to you which is
a relocation grant by my employer, and all you need to do is deduct the
deposit $1800 and you will forward the rest to the Decorators so i can
have the place all prepared for my arrival. All applications and
lease will be signed as soon as i arrive.
Also for familiarization I Am David Decker,I am 32 yrs of age,a British
citizen, married to a lovely lady, with a daughter (Family staying
over in the UK ), I work with APEX INSURANCE GROUP, as a loss
adjuster agent,I am a Christian, reserved in Nature, Non smoker
also i don’t keep pets.
I look forward to meeting you and hope to have a good relationship as
a tenant with you.
I await the details.
you can reach me at this number +447024099236
Below is my present landlords information for reference :
Anthony Scott
65 Oak Hill,Woodford Green IG89NY
UNITED KINGDOM
EMAIL:scott_hony@yahoo.co.uk
You can also call my employer at the number below to verify employment.
(Ivan Samuel +447024017745)
Cheers
Comment by rnp— May 30, 2009 #
These lazy crooks overseas or here in the United States are certainly limited in their scams. I got an email from a GORDON COLE whose email is g.cole1111@gmail.com claiming he is a researcher in England moving to the US and who wanted to rent my house listed on Craigslist. The deal was he would have $6500 sent over for rent deposits and wanted me to send the balance by Western Union to his decorator, a woman named SHAMIK SPANN, in South Carolina. I googled SHAMIK SPANN and she apparently is a black female listed in FACEBOOK. He gave me his current landlord’s name of JOSEPH WILLIAM who sent me an email praising his “tenant”. The $6500 check was a forgery according to the company named on the check. I knew it was a scam and wanted him to waste $23 for express mail to send the check and use it for evidence. Obviously, he would not fill out a rental application or credit check release form. He also pulled the same scam on another landlord or two according to the company. So beware of these names and scam.
Comment by christina— June 4, 2009 #
I too am dealing with david decker.. I have all the same exact emails from him. He recently changed his email from verizon.net to yahoo.com. I told him that I forwarded everything over to the FBI, due to them contacting me.
Comment by steven— June 9, 2009 #
The name of my scammer is CAROL THOMAS, also from the UK. I trusted the whole scam for quite a while, the check came in the mail, I deposited it with my bank, and this email came yesterday:
Dear Lars
Good to hear from you and I must let you know that I really appreciate your effort at making my relocation down to the states a very smooth and less stressful one,
I am currently on site and haven’t been in office, also i will be in the States as soon as I am through down here. But I will want the keys given to the Mrs.Reynolds who will be contacting you soon about bringing in the furniture and some other personal belongings. I will be in the States come July 5th but before then please do let the furniture company have their payment so that the can release the furniture to Mrs.Reynolds to bring it down to the States by 1st of July.
Do send the furniture company’s money to this information below
The information is this for the transfer of their funds via western union money transfer the total money you will send to them after deducting your deposit of ($800) is ($5000) you deduct the western union transfer charges from the funds you will be sending this is the breakdown:
You send $2600 to the below name:
Dana Williams and $2400 to Camille Reynolds
DEDUCT THE WESTERN UNION TRANSFER CHARGES FROM THE MONEY YOU WILL BE SENDING
Name:- Dana Williams
Address:- 26 Austin Close
Manchester M18 7TH
England
Amount :- $2600
Send the rest to
Mrs. Camille Reynolds who who be bringing in the furniture and getting me some personal items.
Address: 63, Haley Rd South, buttonwood
WarringtonCheshire EC5 4JE
England
Amount – $2400
You will have to deduct the western union money transfer charges from the amount you want to transfer, I want everything to get clear to you .As soon as you get transfer done ,you ill have to get back to me with the following transfer information ,
MTCN CONTROL NUMBER ( 10 DIGIT NUMBER )
SENDER’S FULL NAME & ADDRESS
AMOUNT SENT AFTER TRANSFER CHARGES
TRANSFER CHARGES
As soon as i arrive on the 5th of July, I will have other arrangement perfected.
I advise you do this on time so that I will not have to pay additional money to the furniture company for keeping my goods. Send the Money via Western Union Money Transfer.
Regards
I AM GLAD FOR THIS WEBSITE!
Comment by Lars Kierspel— June 24, 2009 #
got the same David Decker scam but didn’t go any further once i googled his name and found the scam site
Comment by marc— June 30, 2009 #
Had identical scam from someone with Apex Insurance group on 07/05/09. Great that i checked further to prevent a disaster. I am going to forward this scam to APEX INSURANCE Group for their information. Bet they are loosing business because of this..
Comment by Rocki— July 6, 2009 #
I just got the exact same thing from Carol Thomas. I gave him my mailing address…Does anyone know if he can do anything with that?
Comment by Garrett Mulder— July 6, 2009 #
I had the same from a new name Trevor Lake so Beware. Did not respond after this email when I knew this was a scam and sure enough here is the proof from all of your posts.
Hello
Thanks for the details on the Property, I am satisfied and will like to go ahead with the renting process, I will like you to go ahead and reserve the property for me.So I will be needing the following information’s so that the check payment of $2000 can be processed and posted to you soon.
Name:…………
Address:………….
Phone number(cell and land):…………..
I want the 12 month lease to start on the 25th of july 2009, I also want to notify you that I have in the mean time arrange with an interior decorator (Agent) who will be handling the purchase of furniture’s, entertainment system and other appliances that I will need in the property, they will as well be in charge of moving down my luggage’s down to the states. So the check of $4800 will be sent over to you which is a relocation grant by my employer.All you need do is to deduct the deposit $2200 and forward the difference to my Decorators so I can have the place prepared before my arrival.. All applications and lease will be signed as soon as I arrive.Also for familiarization I Am Tyler,I am 31 yrs of age, a British citizen, married to a lovely lady, with a daughter (Family staying over in the UK), I work with (KingsbridgeRiskSolutions (UK) Ivy house,8 – 10 High Street,Twyford,READING,RG10 9AE), as a loss adjuster agent, I am a Christian, reserved in Nature, Non smoker also i don’tkeep pets.I look forward to meeting you and hope to have a good relationship as a tenant with you.I await the details.you can reach my at this number Below is my present landlords information for reference :
Dr.Jimmy Jat
4 Dorville Crescent. London W6 0HJ
UNITED KINGDOM
EMAIL:jimmyjat2000@yahoo.com
Regards.
Tyler
GORDON HOUSE
12 Greencoat Place
London
SW1P 1PH
+44 7024047526
Comment by chad— July 12, 2009 #
We were contacted by “tyler Justin” on 13 Jul, similar to above:
From: tyler Justin [mailto:tylerjustinmock03@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 8:24 PM
To: ….
Subject: …
Hello
Thanks for the details on the Property, I am satisfied and will like to go ahead with the renting process, I will like you to go ahead and reserve the property for me.So I will be needing the following information’s so that the check payment of $1950 can be processed and posted to you soon.
Name:…………
Address:………….
Phone number(cell and land):…………..
I want the 12 month lease to start on the 30th of july 2009, I also want to notify you that I have in the mean time arrange with an interior decorator (Agent) who will be handling the purchase of furniture’s, entertainment system and other appliances that I will need in the property, they will as well be in charge of moving down my luggage’s down to the states. So the check of $4800 will be sent over to you which is a relocation grant by my employer.All you need do is to deduct the deposit $1950 and forward the difference to my Decorators so I can have the place prepared before my arrival.. All applications and lease will be signed as soon as I arrive.Also for familiarization I Am Trevor,I am 31 yrs of age, a British citizen, married to a lovely lady, with a daughter (Family staying over in the UK), I work with (KingsbridgeRiskSolutions (UK) Ivy house,8 – 10 High Street,Twyford,READING,RG10 9AE), as a loss adjuster agent, I am a Christian, reserved in Nature, Non smoker also i don’tkeep pets.I look forward to meeting you and hope to have a good relationship as a tenant with you.I await the details.you can reach my at this number Below is my present landlords information for reference :
Dr.Jimmy Jat
4 Dorville Crescent. London W6 0HJ
UNITED KINGDOM
EMAIL:jimmyjat2000@yahoo.com
Regards.
Trevor
GORDON HOUSE
12 Greencoat Place
London
SW1P 1PH
+44 7024047526
Comment by Bryan— July 20, 2009 #
I just received the same email from “Watson” in London, the letter was copied, only the person renting was named Watson instead of Trevor. Crooks Liars and Thieves!
Comment by Antonio Santilli— November 2, 2009 #
I just got exactly the same e-mail from this crook Luke Wattson in London. Be aware. This scam going around for couple years by the same criminal with different names and addresses. NEVER FALL IN HIS TRAP!!! He should be caught and prosecuted. How to report to FBI? Any one know? I believe he is here in US not London.
Comment by Luong Tran— November 4, 2009 #
Just had two scam attempts in a matter of two hours. Googled the names and it led me right to a scam website…Fowarded all emails to the FBI. Erica Blair and Reina Bentley were the two names that they used so look out for these ones!!
Comment by Sara— July 30, 2009 #
Who did you forward the information to?
Comment by On to the scam— November 2, 2009 #
2 new scammers from the UK
James Conroy (Apex Ins Co)
Kevin Taylor (sponsors Eli Lilly Pharmaceuticals)
Comment by Dich— August 2, 2009 #
Very funny he was promising a house and when i went to the address via google earth it turned out to be an apartment!
MY FAMILY AND I HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED YOU AS OUR NEW TENANT
Hello Gladys Torres ,
Thanks for getting back to me with the Rent Application Form.. I just wanted to let you know that we have decided to let you live in our house.. As we have found your application very satisfactory and acceptable by my family..So we would want you to go through this email and get back to us on what you feel so we could proceed in renting the house to you.
We would like to send the following documents to you via DHL next day delivery to the address you sent to us and the tracking number will be sent to you so that you can possibly occupy our house. Please once again, we are giving you this based on trust so please do not disappoint us and i promise you that, you will love the house.
We are with the under listed documents here with us and you will need to make Payment for the security deposit ( $500 US) to enable shipment of the Keys and documents to the address you have provided to us, after which you could move in at your convenience. The rent starts counting when you move in, so you could go ahead with the payment straight away to make things faster,so you can have the keys and documents of the house with you and then move in at your own convenience.
Here are the contents of the document that needs to be sent.
1) Entrance and the rooms Keys
2) Paper/Permanent house form
3) The house documentary file.
4) Full Description of the house
5) Payment Receipt
6) Signed Lease Agreement Form you are supposed to also sign and get it sent back to me.
So please do get back to me today so that I will let know the next step to take concerning the payment….The house is available for rent for up to 4 years,so you are free to decide on how long you intend occupying it…Rent already includes utilities..I’m ready to accept either monthly or upfront mode of payment..depending on the one you’re most comfortable with..Utilities include:power, water,sewer and trash… Your monthly rent already covers utilities so you do not have to pay extra charges for that..
Please note that the deposit made is fully refundable should in case you finally gain entrance to the house after receiving the keys and documents and feel unsatisfied or uncomfortable with the interior,but i am giving you a benefit of doubt that you will love everything about this lovely home..You are advised to act fast on this so you don’t loose the house to other interested applicants.
Thanks and Remain Blessed,
Mr/Mrs Norberto Maccari
Cell : 011-234-802-971-5494
Comment by Karen— August 7, 2009 #
Just got the following email from Reina Bentley…..Hi There,
How re you doing? I hope all is well. I’m REINA BENTLEY , am 26 yrs old and Am originally from Barcelona, Spain Graduate of Huelva University on the Costa de la Luz , I have a master degree in interior fashion and I work as a professional fashion designer. I moved to Phoenix , AZ two year ago for work and that’s where am living. I’m am not in the states right now, i am presently in West africa . I am currently working on contract for a company call (African Family Home Fashions) here in West Africa ( Nigeria ) which the contract will be ending soon. I will be returning to the states in two weeks time and I don’t want to go back to my where am living in Phoenix because my house rent has expired there. I enjoy traveling, It is very interesting to get more knowledge about the new countries, new people and traditions. It’s great to have such a possibility.
As i was searching through the web i saw the advert of your place . I would like to know maybe it’s still available becasue i’m extremely interested in it. Here are the questions i would like to know about the room before planing to move in to the following questions below:
A}I will like to know the major intersection nearest your neighbourhood.like shopping mall,Churches,bus line e.t.c
B}I will like to know the total cost for the my initial move as in first month rent and if you accept deposit.
C}I will like to know if there is any garage or parking space cos I will have my own car come over.
D}I will like to have the rent fee per month plus the utilities.
E}I will like to have the description of the place, size, and the equipments in there.
F}I will also like to know Your payment mode.
G}I will like to know if I can make an advance payment ahead my arrival
that will be stand as a kind of commitment that I am truely coming over and for you to hold the place down for me. I will be very glad to have all this questions answered with out leaving a stone unturned… Now a little about myself;I am from Barcelona, Spain : that means i am Spanish and had all my education in Spain . I am 26yrs old and very much single,the only child of my only parent,my mother alive, i lost my father and my only brother years ago while i was still a kid in an auto accident.I am currently living with my mom who’s a catholic volunteer worker,but also manages her antique business. She is a volunteer at the sister’s of the eucharistic heart of jesus convent,here in Barcelona , Spain . I have been wanted to relocated to the US longtime ago even while i was a little girl growing up and my mom is in support.It’ been a long dreamed come true for me when i finnally settled in the US now. I have chosen your city for me to live when i arrive. I am easy to get along with and well mannered. I do not use people’s items without permission and consideration. Kindly get back to me ASAP with the your monthly rent and the deposit i need to pay to enable you turn down other interested parties and keep the place for me until i arrive,because i will like to pay for the deposit before my arrival and i will like to know the total amount the rent for a whole year would be,as i am more interested in a long term lease,but still open to any form of lease you want. But i will like to pay the deposit first of all before i arrive to show my seriousness and so that you can hold the place for me until i arrive.I am single as i said and i am not attached to anyone at the moment. I do part time modeling; i call myself an amateur though,LOL,just something i take as a hobby and also i have a masters degree in interior fashion which i bagged from the Huelva University on the Costa de la Luz in Spain . I will be looking to pick up Fashion Designer jobs once i arrive in ur city, Fashion Designer is my life and i love it. I am new living all alone as i have lived with my mom alone in the past but i have no doubs in my mind about my ability to live peacefully with as i was raised to be a lover of peace. A friend just introduced me to this thing and i really wish that i am able to find the good cultured kind of Place i am looking for here. I hope i am doing it right anyways.LOL. Well,i think we will get along well because am a easy going person who respects ones privacy,like i said i dont do drugs or smoke but i drink only occasionally,i strongly believe there will be any problems rent the place to me as i was raised by strong catholic Christain parents and have inbibed such good qualities from childhood. I will love to see your pics and those of the place as well.I’ll be so glad if you can reserve the place for me and remove all your the adverts abt the place as i’ll love to rent the place. Get back to me ASAP
Thanks and have a good time.
Warmest Regards,
REINA
Comment by Cara— August 18, 2009 #
Receieved two notes back-to-back from:
JAMES CONROY [roy25james@mailbox.hu]
James Conroy [amesconroy05@yahoo.com]
…I am currently in the UK and i am Relocating over to the US to do a survey for my employer (APEX INSURANCE GROUP(UK)) ….
Same themes as discussed, above. Targeting BOSTON, MA
Comment by russ— August 26, 2009 #
They’re still at it:
eric herman [humeric6483@mailbox.hu]
heric hermain [hhermain@googlemail.com]
“…I am currently in the UK and i am
Relocating over to the US to do a survey for my employer (APEX
INSURANCE GROUP(UK))…”
Boston area
Comment by Allie— October 15, 2009 #
Be Alert of this guy: Dawie Lui with Cell: 011-234-802-971-5494, He also used email acct: luidawie@yahoo.com.
He posted on craigslist in Phoenix with picture and property address of someone else. Asking for first month rent + security deposit of $500. He is totally a liar. NEVER EVER PAY money to him!!!!!
Comment by Ying— September 4, 2009 #
Apparently, they are still at it – I just received the following email (SCAM) from an Eric Herman (herman.eric@gmail.com)
“With regards to the property i am inquiring about, i will like to get
some more details about it,I am currently in the UK and i am
Relocating over to the US to do a survey for my employer (APEX
INSURANCE GROUP(UK)), as we are about to open an office in the state,
so due to the fact that i can not be present to inspect the Property,
i will like you to give me the below detail
# I need full details including address of the property and pictures
if available
# Monthly rentals/security deposits
# If utilities is added to monthly rent
# When the property would be available
# Mail me the total move in cost
I awaits your response soon.
Regards.
I googled “APEX” and saw your website came up. Thanks SO MUCH for keeping all us honest people in the loop!
Comment by Ellen— October 7, 2009 #
Your APEX INSURANCE GROUP scammer is still out there. Watch out for him! Got this from him today.
From: heric hermain
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 8:27 PM
To: Kosmetyki
Subject: details
Thanks for the details on the Property, i am satisfied and will
like to proceed with the renting process,
i will like you to go ahead and reserve the property for me.
So i will be needing the following information so that the check
for payment of the deposit of $3375 can be processed and posted to you
soon.
Name:…………
Address:………….
Phone number(cell and land):…………
I want the 12 months lease to start on the 1st November 2009, i will also
want to notify you that i have in the mean time arrange with an
interior decorator who will be handling the purchase of furnitures,
entertainment system and other appliances that i will need in the
property,they will as well be in-charge of moving down my luggage down
to the States.So the check of $8000 will be sent over to you which is
a relocation grant by my employer, and all you need to do is deduct the
deposit $3375 and you will forward the rest to the Decorators so i can
have the place all prepared for my arrival. All applications and
lease will be signed as soon as i arrive.
Also for familiarization I Am Eric Herman , I am 32 yrs of age,a British
citizen, married to a lovely lady, with a daughter (Family staying
over in the UK ), I work with APEX INSURANCE GROUP, as a loss
adjuster agent,I am a Christian, reserved in Nature, Non smoker
also i don’t keep pets.
I look forward to meeting you and hope to have a good relationship as
a tenant with you.
I await the details.
you can reach me at this number +447024099236
Below is my present landlords information for reference :
Anthony Scott
65 Oak Hill,Woodford Green IG89NY
UNITED KINGDOM
EMAIL:cott_hony@yahoo.com
You can also call my employer at the number below to verify employment.
(Ivan Samuel +447024017745)
Cheers
Comment by Joanna— October 13, 2009 #
After receiving a respnse from Eric Harmon saying he worked for APEX insurance Co, I went online to check out the company and got to your site. The letter was exactly the same as others listed here. Thank you.
Comment by Janice— October 15, 2009 #
Got the Apex one. This one has 2 different emails.
Re: $1100 / 2br – 2 Bed 1 Bath Condo – Close to Commuter Rail and Bus
Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:28 AM
From: This sender is DomainKeys verified”heric hermain”
With regards to the property i am inquiring about, i will like to get
some more details about it,I am currently in the UK and i am
Relocating over to the US to do a survey for my employer (APEX
INSURANCE GROUP(UK)), as we are about to open an office in the state,
so due to the fact that i can not be present to inspect the Property,
i will like you to give me the below detail
# I need full details including address of the property and pictures
if available
# Monthly rentals/security deposits
# If utilities is added to monthly rent
# When the property would be available
# Mail me the total move in cost
I awaits your response soon.
Regards.
On 10/14/09,
> Hello,
>
> Yes the place is still open. If you are interested, give me a call at
>
> — On Wed, 10/14/09, eric herman wrote:
>
>
> From: eric herman
> Subject: $1100 / 2br – 2 Bed 1 Bath Condo – Close to Commuter Rail and Bus
> To: hous-qjr5b-1420082083@craigslist.org
> Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 10:32 AM
>
>
> ** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY — AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY
> ** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home
> ** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping
> ** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html
> –
> Hello,
> I would like to know if the property you listed on craigslist is
> still available.
> Regards.
Comment by homer— October 15, 2009 #
You can report these scams to the FBI ( for all the good It may do) the site is ic3.com . good luck
Comment by Allan Jacques— October 16, 2009 #
Neglected to add that I had the same scam attempt from Eric Herman from Apex insurance group uk. Same exact script and emaill addresses and references. Beware!
Comment by Allan Jacques— October 16, 2009 #
Got the same email scam from Eric Herman/Heric Hermain:
With regards to the property i am inquiring about, i will like to get
some more details about it,I am currently in the UK and i am
Relocating over to the US to do a survey for my employer (APEX
INSURANCE GROUP(UK)), as we are about to open an office in the state,
so due to the fact that i can not be present to inspect the Property,
i will like you to give me the below detail
# I need full details including address of the property and pictures
if available
# Monthly rentals/security deposits
# If utilities is added to monthly rent
# When the property would be available
# Mail me the total move in cost
I awaits your response soon.
Regards.
SCAM!!!!!!
Comment by KR— October 16, 2009 #
I’m new to this rental business and therefore the scams that are out there but I am quickly learning and really appreciate this site! Thanks.
This is from a Donna Higgins:
Hi again ,
Thanks once again for the reply,I am very happy meeting a person like
you,It ‘s nice meeting you and i will never ever want to loose the the
place ,you did inspire me,I want You to know that i am okay with the
place
I got to believe that the people that are around someone matters most,i
believe that you’ll be a nice person,I want you to know that i have my
dresser,computer table,kitchen utensils and 2 big luggages and my car
to be shipped..i’ll love to secure place so that so that i wont loose
the place and with the way we ve communicated,I am okay with all you ve
said and i want you to know that i don’t want to make any plan without
securing a place down now,so i ve let my uncle understand that i ve
gotten a place and told him abt the place,He is comfortable with it
too,so i thought of it and i will be making payment to hold down the
place as i cant afford to loose it at all, and the mode of payment
will be the Most acceptable,easier,safer and reliable means of payment
which is a certified Money order,pls provide me with the following
information to get the payment to you.Your full name as it will appear
on the payment,or your work place address to ensure delivery in your
hands when not at home through regular mails or a courier service,and
your phone number on the package to avoid package missing in transit.I
will prefer to send to any of the addresses just to ensure safe
delievery.
Kindly get back to me with this requested address contact information
so that we can proceed,I do not want to loose the place.And to let you
know it is not that i have bunch of furnitures,just my car and my
personal effects…I also want you to know that if i secure the place
now,i can move on formally,please understand that..
Feel free to ask me any question(s) you have okay
Thanks…
Comment by Mary Ann— October 17, 2009 #
I got several emails all of which a tracked down to the same guy. The guy sounds like he’s not speaking english as a primary language. He structures his sentences as though he’s eastern european….. trying to sound good as an english speaking person. He also uses poor sentence structure and poor grammar for someone pretending to be traveling on business from the UK!!!!!
Anyway folks, He wrote under the following names at one point or another in my communication with him.
Trevor Lake
Jimmy Jat
Dr Lawson
Jason Green
That’s all I have!
John
Comment by John— October 28, 2009 #
I just got a similar scam:
Thanks for the details on the Property, i am satisfied and will
like to proceed with the renting process,
i will like you to go ahead and reserve the property for me.
So i will be needing the following information so that the check
for payment of the deposit of $3300 can be processed and posted to you
soon.
Name:…………
Address:………….
Phone number(cell and land):…………
I want the 12 months lease to start on the 1st November 2009, i will also
want to notify you that i have in the mean time arrange with an
interior decorator who will be handling the purchase of furnitures,
entertainment system and other appliances that i will need in the
property,they will as well be in-charge of moving down my luggage down
to the States.So the check of $7900 will be sent over to you which is
a relocation grant by my employer, and all you need to do is deduct the
deposit $3300 and you will forward the rest to the Decorators so i can
have the place all prepared for my arrival. All applications and
lease will be signed as soon as i arrive.
Also for familiarization I Am Eric Herman , I am 32 yrs of age,a British
citizen, married to a lovely lady, with a daughter (Family staying
over in the UK ), I work with APEX INSURANCE GROUP, as a loss
adjuster agent,I am a Christian, reserved in Nature, Non smoker
also i don’t keep pets.
I look forward to meeting you and hope to have a good relationship as
a tenant with you.
I await the details.
you can reach me at this number +447024099236
Below is my present landlords information for reference :
Anthony Scott
65 Oak Hill,Woodford Green IG89NY
UNITED KINGDOM
EMAIL:cott_hony@yahoo.com
You can also call my employer at the number below to verify employment.
(Ivan Samuel +447024017745)
Cheers
Comment by andy— October 28, 2009 #
Tell Watson @ 12 Greencoat Place London, Sw1P 1PH #44 7024076560, that he just made a big mistake by contacting me. I will be notifying the FBI. Let’s get the word out about these criminals.
Comment by Antonio Santilli— November 2, 2009 #
Got something similar: Isn’t there anything we can do?
Thanks for the details on the Property, i am satisfied and will
like to proceed with the renting process,
i will like you to go ahead and reserve the property for me.
So i will be needing the following information so that the check
for payment of the deposit of $4500 can be processed and posted to you
soon.
Name:…………
Address:………….
Phone number(cell and land):…………
I want the 12 months lease to start on the 15th November 2009, i will also
want to notify you that i have in the mean time arrange with an
interior decorator who will be handling the purchase of furnitures,
entertainment system and other appliances that i will need in the
property,they will as well be in-charge of moving down my luggage down
to the States.So the check of $9100 will be sent over to you which is
a relocation grant by my employer, and all you need to do is deduct the
deposit $4500 and you will forward the rest to the Decorators so i can
have the place all prepared for my arrival. All applications and
lease will be signed as soon as i arrive.
Also for familiarization I Am Eric Herman , I am 32 yrs of age,a British
citizen, married to a lovely lady, with a daughter (Family staying
over in the UK ), I work with APEX INSURANCE GROUP, as a loss
adjuster agent,I am a Christian, reserved in Nature, Non smoker
also i don’t keep pets.
I look forward to meeting you and hope to have a good relationship as
a tenant with you.
I await the details.
you can reach me at this number +447024099236
Below is my present landlords information for reference :
Anthony Scott
65 Oak Hill,Woodford Green IG89NY
UNITED KINGDOM
EMAIL:cott_hony@yahoo.com
You can also call my employer at the number below to verify employment.
(Ivan Samuel +447024017745)
Cheers
Comment by On to the scam— November 2, 2009 #
Luckily we saw this site before we got too far into process. See below for e-mail communication
I want the 12 months lease to start on the 15th November 2009, i will also
want to notify you that i have in the mean time arrange with an
interior decorator who will be handling the purchase of furnitures,
entertainment system and other appliances that i will need in the
property,they will as well be in-charge of moving down my luggage down
to the States.So the check of $7800 will be sent over to you which is
a relocation grant by my employer, and all you need to do is deduct the
deposit $3250 and you will forward the rest to the Decorators so i can
have the place all prepared for my arrival. All applications and
lease will be signed as soon as i arrive.
Also for familiarization I Am Eric Herman , I am 32 yrs of age,a British
citizen, married to a lovely lady, with a daughter (Family staying
over in the UK ), I work with APEX INSURANCE GROUP, as a loss
adjuster agent,I am a Christian, reserved in Nature, Non smoker
also i don’t keep pets.
I look forward to meeting you and hope to have a good relationship as
a tenant with you.
I await the details.
you can reach me at this number +447024099236
Below is my present landlords information for reference :
Anthony Scott
65 Oak Hill,Woodford Green IG89NY
UNITED KINGDOM
EMAIL:cott_hony@yahoo.com
You can also call my employer at the number below to verify employment.
(Ivan Samuel +447024017745)
Cheers
Comment by Erica— November 5, 2009 #
Yet another story about APEX INSURANCE GROUP in the UK. I received a response from my rental ad on Craigslist from Eric Herman asking me if the property was still available. I emailed him and told him it was. He responded with the following email: (notice, his name has now changed to Heric Hermain — red flag!):
With regards to the property i am inquiring about, i will like to get
some more details about it,I am currently in the UK and i am
Relocating over to the US to do a survey for my employer (APEX
INSURANCE GROUP(UK)), as we are about to open an office in the state,
so due to the fact that i can not be present to inspect the Property,
i will like you to give me the below detail
# I need full details including address of the property and pictures
if available
# Monthly rentals/security deposits
# If utilities is added to monthly rent
# When the property would be available
# Mail me the total move in cost
I awaits your response soon.
Regards.
I went to his website, which is obviously fake — the contacts have Hotmail email accounts!
I’m not sure who to contact about this. I’d hate to see an honest person lose their money to scum like this!
Comment by Kim Smith— November 5, 2009 #
Damn!!! I got the same letter as Erica, just above. Identical and from the same person. Hopefully he didn’t get too much info from me. I’d sure like to know where I stand. Evidently the check is on it’s way to my home address.
Comment by Dan— November 6, 2009 #
Hello Dan and Kim,
I just got the same email from Eric Herman. I was renting a furnished apd apartment and noticed his comment for a decorator who would furnish it. and I would also forward funds to his decorator fromt check he was to send to me. The english and punctuation were off as well. What a waste of time.
Comment by Jennifer— December 5, 2009 #
I got this from Lillian Scarf
Hello,
Thanks for your Reply to my E-Mail, However its absolutely good and lovely i have attach 2 pics of me alone and with me and family to see whom you will be living with soon, am ok with all your terms and condition also with your move in price plus utilities as seen on the craigslist site..Am willing to pay in advance upon my arrival.My coming over there is by my company support,they are responsible for all my financial area and the best payable by Cashier’s Cheque,or money order….and as you accept the above method of payment Kindly give me your full name and address, phone number so that this payment will be issued out to you asap.This payment include my flight ticket to your place and some other things, so what you need to do is to take it to your bank and as soon as you have it cash you kindly deduct you rent fees and help me send the remaining balance to my travel agent so that i can book my flight and come over.A little about myself….I’m 27 years old, work with Small clothing firm here in UK Regional office….A Christian,Who is responsible,considerate, clean and respectful of other people and their things.I like to laugh and make others laugh, I like to be social as well as have time to soak up the peace and quiet.I like to write, read, watch the occasional tv show,I am an easy going person and like to have an apartment/roommate who is very responsible and understanding, someone I can really get along with….
I will be so glad if you can get back to me with the information so that this payment can get to you asap.
Look forward to hear from you.get back to me with your info?
Full Name
Full Home Address
City
States
Zip Code
Phone Number
Regards,
Lillian
and this from Dr Steve Murray
Hi Tammy,
…..Thanks for the swift response.I’m really satisfied with the breakdown details you have given so far after i went to check the AD on craigslist again.Her MSc programme will last one and half year and some months which i can’t tell so that means she would be staying up to 2 years pending the time you will no longer need a roommate at your place then she could find somewhere else closer to her school over there.I intend to forward the payment via a Certified Cashier Cheque which will be issued out by my business associate who also resides in the United States.He is owing me some funds and would like to use the fund to clear up my daughter’s bill.The payment will be made as soon as i have your informations on how i can get the payment to you and you cash it immediately from your bank once it gets to you .I’m giving you a $100 bonus for the running around so try and take the ad off craigslist as i don’t want anyone to get the room before me.You will need to send the remaining balance to my daughter’s traveling agent after you might have deducted your money,the $100 bonus and Western Union
Charges you will be charged while sending the money to my Daughter’s traveling agent who will be responsible for her flight to your place.I would want you to get back to me with the following informations so that the payment can reach your front door ASAP.
Name:
Address:
Phone #:
State,City and Zipcode:
Hope to read from you soon…
Dr.Steve Murray
Comment by Tammy Reith— November 12, 2009 #
yes yes i got the same scam from Dr steve Murry from the united kingdom
the same words about his daughter coming to rent a room for 2 years and he would send me a check i went along with him and just to play the scam game this is what i said to Dr Murry i’m a law officer got ya’ never heard from him again.also Mr.Henry and Mr.Murry i’m from Washington DC and i have seen your kind ha ha ha!!!!
Comment by sue— November 28, 2009 #
Oh my gosh…
I am so glad that I googled apex insurance group. I actually received the check from Eric Herman yesterday and have not deposited it yet. I am waiting for him to send me his information to do background check. But the same verbiage as he just sent to all of you. The check is from a bank that I had googled, seems legite from MN. But after viewing this…
Thank you so much, for saving me time and disgrace.
I did forward him our home address in order for him to fed ex the check to me. Do you think that will hurt me in the long run?
Comment by Sher— November 12, 2009 #
This is the second mail I got from Heric Hermain after his first one asking if the property was still available.
With regards to the property i am inquiring about, i will like to get
some more details about it,I am currently in the UK and i am
Relocating over to the US to do a survey for my employer (APEX
INSURANCE GROUP(UK)), as we are about to open an office in the state,
so due to the fact that i can not be present to inspect the Property,
i will like you to give me the below detail
# I need full details including address of the property and pictures
if available
# Monthly rentals/security deposits
# If utilities is added to monthly rent
# When the property would be available
# Mail me the total move in cost
I awaits your response soon.
Regards.
Comment by Rod— November 18, 2009 #
I received the same email from Eric Hermain and I’m glad I googled him and found this. It kept me from responding to him…
Thanks for posting scams like this on Craigslist.
Comment by Alex— December 5, 2009 #
Please add me to the list of people contact by Eric Herman. He has sent two emails now, very computerized type of responses and I decided to google him and found you all…
I’m so glad to have resources like this to turn to so that I and everyone else have a chance to not be scammed!
What Rod wrote above is the exact email he has sent me. The only thing I did not do is I did not give him the exact address. The partial address was in the ad and if he responded to the ad then he can go back to it for more information.
But thank you all for doing all the above and I appreciate not being caught up in any drama with him!
Cheers to you all and I hope everything works out for all of you!
Comment by Carie— November 18, 2009 #
Be aware: Eric Herman is still out there targeting rentals
Thanks for the details on the Property, i am satisfied and will
like to proceed with the renting process,
i will like you to go ahead and reserve the property for me.
So i will be needing the following information so that the check
for payment of the deposit of $3600 can be processed and posted to you
soon.
Name:…………
Address:………….
Phone number(cell and land):…………
I want the 12 months lease to start on the 1st Dec 2009, i will also
want to notify you that i have in the mean time arrange with an
interior decorator who will be handling the purchase of furniture,
entertainment system and other appliances that i will need in the
property,they will as well be in-charge of moving down my luggage down
to the States.So the check of $8300 will be sent over to you which is
a relocation grant by my employer, and all you need to do is deduct the
deposit $3600 and you will forward the rest to the Decorators so i can
have the place all prepared for my arrival. All applications and
lease will be signed as soon as i arrive.
Also for familiarization I Am Eric Herman , I am 32 yrs of age,a British
citizen, married to a lovely lady, with a daughter (Family staying
over in the UK ), I work with APEX INSURANCE GROUP, as a loss
adjuster agent,I am a Christian, reserved in Nature, Non smoker
also i don’t keep pets.
I look forward to meeting you and hope to have a good relationship as
a tenant with you.
I await the details.
you can reach me at this number +447024099236
Below is my present landlords information for reference :
Anthony Scott
65 Oak Hill,Woodford Green IG89NY
UNITED KINGDOM
EMAIL:cott_hony@yahoo.com
You can also call my employer at the number below to verify employment.
(Ivan Samuel +447024017745)
Cheers
Comment by Tina— November 19, 2009 #
I got the same crap from Eric Herman before I discovered this site.
I have not provided any info as I was suspicious from the very beginning and continued my research while corresponding with him.
Thanks for the details on the Property, i am satisfied and will
like to proceed with the renting process,
i will like you to go ahead and reserve the property for me.
So i will be needing the following information so that the check
for payment of the deposit of $4250 can be processed and posted to you
soon.
Name:…………
Address:………….
Phone number(cell and land):…………
I want the 12 months lease to start on the 1st Dec 2009, i will also
want to notify you that i have in the mean time arrange with an
interior decorator who will be handling the purchase of furniture,
entertainment system and other appliances that i will need in the
property,they will as well be in-charge of moving down my luggage down
to the States.So the check of $8900 will be sent over to you which is
a relocation grant by my employer, and all you need to do is deduct the
deposit $4250 and you will forward the rest to the Decorators so i can
have the place all prepared for my arrival. All applications and
lease will be signed as soon as i arrive.
Also for familiarization I Am Eric Herman , I am 32 yrs of age,a British
citizen, married to a lovely lady, with a daughter (Family staying
over in the UK ), I work with APEX INSURANCE GROUP, as a loss
adjuster agent,I am a Christian, reserved in Nature, Non smoker
also i don’t keep pets.
I look forward to meeting you and hope to have a good relationship as
a tenant with you.
I await the details.
you can reach me at this number +447024099236
Below is my present landlords information for reference :
Anthony Scott
65 Oak Hill,Woodford Green IG89NY
UNITED KINGDOM
EMAIL:cott_hony@yahoo.com
You can also call my employer at the number below to verify employment.
(Ivan Samuel +447024017745)
Cheers
Absolutely identical presentation:
Comment by Irina— November 20, 2009 #
Beware the English “relocating Civil Engineer” looking to rent for a year……….see the email I got……………………………………………..
From: Ken George
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Mon, Nov 23, 2009 2:48 pm
Subject: Re: $775 / 2br – Rochester Condo for Rent (Rochester) (map)
Thanks for your mail, I will be willing to offer you 2months rent to start with plus the security deposit in order to secure this unit prior to my arrival.
I am an Civil Engineer by profession, I will be coming to the state for the next one year and during my stay, I will be working Centrex Construction Company. You can contact Andy Rose, Managing Director Balfour Betty’s Group on 206-666-4169
There is a company financier who will be handling the rent and deposit. Due to the limited time that we have before our arrival, we are making arrangements with a furniture company to supply the home with furniture’s,so we will need you to provide us with the the following:
# Measurements of the living room and bedroom.
# Picture viewing the living room and the bed rooms.
# As regards the lease agreement and application, I want you to send it to me for my review.
I will eventually have it filled and signed on my arrival in your place as I am of the opinion that such documents are best filled and signed physically by appending signatory at best physical. We can start the lease by 30th of November and I will be doing a one year lease. You can prepare the lease in my name.
I will look forward to your e-mail with the required information.
Thanks and sincere regards from me and my precious family. I await your urgent response.
Engr. Ken
+447031833187
+447024011513
Reference:
Robert C. Van Cleave
Chairman and CEO
Centrex Construction
(Balfour Beatty Construction)
Comment by Scott— November 24, 2009 #
I got that same letter from Eric Herman … I remembered his name from another listing I had six months ago that he responded to… can’t someone get this guy off then net or at least blocked from craigslist ?
Comment by mark grassia— November 24, 2009 #
I received another Eric Herman one from APEX INSURANCE GROUP, this guy needs to brush up on his con game, so many red flags. His name shows up as ‘heric hermain’ [hhermain@googlemail.com], but goes as Eric Herman. Following is his response to my initial engagement:
Thanks for the details on the Property, i am satisfied and will like to proceed with the renting process, i will like you to go ahead and reserve the property for me.
So i will be needing the following information so that the check for payment of the deposit of $5925 can be processed and posted to you soon.
Name:…………
Address:………….
Phone number(cell and land):…………
I want the 12 months lease to start on the 1st Dec 2009, i will also want to notify you that i have in the mean time arrange with an interior decorator who will be handling the purchase of furniture, entertainment system and other appliances that i will need in the property,they will as well be in-charge of moving down my luggage down to the States.So the check of $9800 will be sent over to you which is a relocation grant by my employer, and all you need to do is deduct the deposit $5925 and you will forward the rest to the Decorators so i can have the place all prepared for my arrival. All applications and lease will be signed as soon as i arrive.
Also for familiarization I Am Eric Herman , I am 32 yrs of age,a British citizen, married to a lovely lady, with a daughter (Family staying over in the UK ), I work with APEX INSURANCE GROUP, as a loss adjuster agent,I am a Christian, reserved in Nature, Non smoker also i don’t keep pets.
I look forward to meeting you and hope to have a good relationship as a tenant with you.
I await the details.
you can reach me at this number +447024099236 Below is my present landlords information for reference :
Anthony Scott
65 Oak Hill,Woodford Green IG89NY
UNITED KINGDOM
EMAIL:scott1_thony@yahoo.com You can also call my employer at the number below to verify employment.
(Ivan Samuel +447024017745)
Cheers
Comment by Andy— November 24, 2009 #
There is a Dr Bradner out there who is doing this too. Watch out for names Baranowski, Randy George, Oliver Khan they are all the same person. FBI has been notified
Comment by chris— November 27, 2009 #
Here the the exact email from the Scammer Eric Herman
Thanks for the details on the Property, i am satisfied and will
like to proceed with the renting process,
i will like you to go ahead and reserve the property for me.
So i will be needing the following information so that the check
for payment of the deposit of $4390 can be processed and posted to you
soon.
Name:…………
Address:………….
Phone number(cell and land):…………
I want the 12 months lease to start on the 15th Dec 2009, i will also
want to notify you that i have in the mean time arrange with an
interior decorator who will be handling the purchase of furniture,
entertainment system and other appliances that i will need in the
property,they will as well be in-charge of moving down my luggage down
to the States.So the check of $8900 will be sent over to you which is
a relocation grant by my employer, and all you need to do is deduct the
deposit $4390 and you will forward the rest to the Decorators so i can
have the place all prepared for my arrival. All applications and
lease will be signed as soon as i arrive.
Also for familiarization I Am Eric Herman , I am 32 yrs of age,a British
citizen, married to a lovely lady, with a daughter (Family staying
over in the UK ), I work with APEX INSURANCE GROUP, as a loss
adjuster agent,I am a Christian, reserved in Nature, Non smoker
also i don’t keep pets.
I look forward to meeting you and hope to have a good relationship as
a tenant with you.
I await the details.
you can reach me at this number +447024099236
Below is my present landlords information for reference :
Anthony Scott
65 Oak Hill,Woodford Green IG89NY
UNITED KINGDOM
EMAIL:scott1_thony@yahoo.com
You can also call my employer at the number below to verify employment.
(Ivan Samuel +447024017745)
Cheers
Comment by eevil— December 2, 2009 #
Yup, scammer Heric Hermain has emailed me multiple times, too. Thanks for the blog & the info
Here is the latest email.
Re: $2000 / 3br – 3 bd/2.5 ba Home in Imperial Beach
From: heric hermain (hhermain@googlemail.com)
Sent: Thu 12/03/09 10:55 AM
To: Simona Kausas (simonakausas@hotmail.com)
With regards to the property i am inquiring about, i will like to get
some more details about it,I am currently in the UK and i am
Relocating over to the US to do a survey for my employer (APEX
INSURANCE GROUP(UK)), as we are about to open an office in the state,
so due to the fact that i can not be present to inspect the Property,
i will like you to give me the below detail
# I need full details including address of the property and pictures
if available
# Monthly rentals/security deposits
# If utilities is added to monthly rent
# When the property would be available
# Mail me the total move in cost
I awaits your response soon.
Regards.
Comment by Mona— December 3, 2009 #
received the following on Dec 3, 2009 from Heric Hermain hhermain@google.com who originally wrote name as Eric Herman. Fortunately, he only has my email address.
With regards to the property i am inquiring about, i will like to get
some more details about it,I am currently in the UK and i am
Relocating over to the US to do a survey for my employer (APEX
INSURANCE GROUP(UK)), as we are about to open an office in the state,
so due to the fact that i can not be present to inspect the Property,
i will like you to give me the below detail
# I need full details including address of the property and pictures
if available
# Monthly rentals/security deposits
# If utilities is added to monthly rent
# When the property would be available
# Mail me the total move in cost
I awaits your response soon.
Regards.
Comment by karen— December 3, 2009 #
I just got the same letters as above from Eric Herman today (12/4/09) trying to rent in the Boston area. He used the email address: eh23364@googlemail.com
It seemed too good to be true, so I’m glad I did some research. I really wish I could make him send a cashier’s check or wire the money via Western Union… Anyone have experience with that?
Comment by BostonGuy— December 4, 2009 #
Received the same exact Apex scam e-mail with same questions today from “Frank Eder,” supposedly coming from the UK. Thanks for notice of this scam.
Comment by BostonApt— January 5, 2011 #
Hey there! I truly enjoy reading your blog! Should you keep making great posts I will come back every single day to keep reading!
Comment by wine rack iron— January 16, 2011 #
Here is the text from my newest CL Scammer. Heads up, he has a daughter..
Hi,
Thanks for the response. I am really happy that you want to give the place to my daughter after going through your mail and description ,She is really satisfied with the breakdown details you have given so far after i went to check the AD on the site.
I know that it is very important to know more about someone looking to rent from you,So this is a little bio about her. she is neat type, honest,responsible,trustworthy and hardworking people while she dislike lazy, messy ,uncaring people and love pets so much, she is quiet and easy going person to live with. she is 26 years of age will 27 soon, 5″8′ straight. like tourising and she doesn’t keep late nights neither will she have overnight guest around, She was born in Swizland, She finish her Degree study at University of east London. her name Is sarah wilson, Why i the father is mike wilson, her mother is dead.
She is coming for Her Master Degree program which will last a year,so this means she will be staying up to 1 years, I will like to make a month payment and security deposit for you to reserve the room for her before her arrival , then i will make subsequent payment thereafter as she plan to stay for more than 10months. To be honest with you i really like the kind of person you are from your little description and if you have the picture of the bedroom available, kindly forward it to me. I am really okay with the place. She is planning to arrive their in two weeks time , so i will love to know if i can make the payment ahead of her arrival via Certified United state Chasier Check because i want to make sure i arrange everything for her upon her arrival why she handle other part. I’ll like to know if i can go ahead with the arrangement of sending the payment to you, My business associate who reside in the united state will be the one to issue out good and reliable payment to you .
More so try remove the advert from the site because i would want you to get the place secure for her, get back to me with the following information so that the payment can reach your front door ASAP.
Full Name :
Residential Home & Apartment address in full:
City:
State:
Zip-code:
Phone number: (cell and home)
Am sure you can also show her around when she arrive there and be there as her friend because she will be new in the environment.
Much Regards
mike wilson
Comment by Margaret— January 24, 2011 #
I received e-mails from a Marcus Dylan claiming to work for APEX insurance relocating to the US from the UK. My e-mail is identical to the ones posted on this site, beware of these scams, the following email addresses were frauds: efrankederj002@yahoo.com, esinger82@yahoo,com
Comment by J— October 22, 2011 #
Still at it…
QUOTE
From: Andrew Wright [Add to Address Book]
Subject: Re: $1250 / 1br – 1100ft² – UCD Med Center / Elmhurst (East Sacramento) (map)
Date: Nov 30, 2011 6:45 AM
Thanks so much for your response.I would like to get some more details about the property
i am inquiring about.I am currently in the UK and i am relocating over to the US to do a
survey for my employer (Apex insurance Inc),as we are about to open an
office in the State, due to the fact that i can not be present to
inspect the Property,
i would like you to give me the below detail
# I need full details including address of the property and pictures
if available
# Monthly rentals/security deposits
# If utilities is added to monthly rent
# When the property would be available
# Mail me the total move in cost
I await your response soon.
Regards.
UNQUOTE
Comment by Scott— November 30, 2011 #
Received the Apex scam e-mail with same questions today from “Andrew Wright” supposedly coming from the UK. Thanks for notice of this scam.
From: Andrew Wright [mailto:lizzysinger56@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 10:44 AM
To: Subject: Re: $825 / 2br – 1400ft² – Huge 1400sf 2b/2b/1g..Water and sunset view home wants tenant now! (Holiday Lakes) (map)
Thanks so much for your response.I would like to get some more details about the property
i am inquiring about.I am currently in the UK and i am relocating over to the US to do a
survey for my employer (Apex insurance Inc),as we are about to open an
office in the State, due to the fact that i can not be present to
inspect the Property,
i would like you to give me the below detail
# I need full details including address of the property and pictures
if available
# Monthly rentals/security deposits
# If utilities is added to monthly rent
# When the property would be available
# Mail me the total move in cost
I await your response soon.
Regards.
Comment by Karen Engdahl— December 1, 2011 #
This is an email I have received. Sounds similar….?
Thanks for getting back to me … My name is ***,I am
> 25yrs old,I am fun loving, personal, friendly,clean, caring,and
> respectful of others. a non-smoker, don’t do drugs, i drink
> occasionally,and drama free. I graduated last year in France, I am single and have no children … i do bible study, and sometimes we do karaoke night with my roommate! i go to church every Sunday .I am coming for my Masters degree. i am from Spain,specifically Malaga, I was born in Ormond Beach in Florida,my dad is from there too but my mum is from Spain…I went to University of Navarra in Spain. I speak both English and Spanish fluently ,am presently on research work at
Hawaii , am almost done.with that bcos its part of my prerequisite
>for my masters in Microbiology . I would have loved to call you but this is a remote area calls is hard to go through from here and i
don’t want to waste much time .
> Am really interested in renting from you and i do really love pets
> but i don’t have any at the moment. I would have loved to see it but
> am very far,but with pictures,I am glad. I will also like you to tell me more about you and if you have garage or parking space cos I will
> have my own car come over, pls let me know the total payment of the place and more over I will send your email to my dad for him to email
> you later bcos he is the one that will be paying the bills but
> nevertheless,I will like you to send me your Full Name and the Mailing
> Address, your Phone number as well,so that my Dad will issue out the payment for the place as soon as possible,with that you can hold on
> the place for me till i come . I will be looking forward to your email
> soonest.Also you can add me on my IM ****@yahoo.com
> so we can get to know Each other Better… Thanks
Comment by Sarah— January 6, 2012 #